Today's guest is Matt Johnson. Matt is the founder of Pursuing Results, a zero-hassle podcast system to break into new markets, build strategic relationships, and create authority.
Matt started out in the real estate space and found a great deal of success owning and dominating a specific niche market through podcasting. As a result, he built an agency to help other businesses own and dominate their niche through similar methods.
His agency started as a loose group of freelancers. But, eventually, he realized he needed to formalize his agency and identify his ideal customer. Being able to niche down was an important part of gaining traction and focusing his business.
The defining moment in Matt's journey so far was choosing to move to San Diego for a job opportunity. He directly credits that move with everything he was able to do afterward with his own business.
Today, Matt is working on transitioning to the next phase of his business by capping the agency work and only taking on a certain number of one-and-done clients. To do this, he's focusing on building courses and other scalable services.
In this episode, we dive into what business owners without a podcast struggle with most when they start to think about doing one.
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In this episode Matt talked about:
- The ROI of podcasting and how you can capitalize on it.
- The biggest benefit to being a guest on a podcast for your business and the biggest reason why most businesses don't do it.
- How Matt's personality has allowed him to shape the direction of his career.
Main Takeaways
- Fear and mental roadblocks are generally the number one thing keeping people from starting a podcast.
- Having guests on or being a guest on another podcast is critical to building deep relationships and earning referrals that move your business forward.
- Podcasting is working whether you think it is or not. It's out there, people are listening and it is doing it's job even if you might not understand it completely.
- Never chase the numbers. Just because your podcast is "big" doesn't mean that you are not maximizing your marketing or connecting with your audience. Dominate your niche instead and become an authority.
Important Mentions in this Episode
Season 5: Selling Your Service
More episodes in this season:
S05 E01 - How to elevate and position your business with Rob and Kennedy from ResponseSuite
S05 E02 - How to Delight and Engage Your Users with Mike Kelly
S05 E03 - How to Overcome Your Fears and Become an Audio Influencer with Mark Asquith
S05 E04 - Screening Your Clients and Scaling Your Business with Jared Gold
S05 E05 - Simplification, Experimentation, and Connecting With Your Customers with James Rose

S05 E06 - How to get out of presentation mode, master client communication, and price on value with Blair Enns
S05 E07 - Niching Down, Podcasting, and Shaping your Career with Matt Johnson

S05 E08 - Self-Promotion, Social Media, and Content Marketing with Ilise Benun
S05 E09 - How To Use Marketing Funnels, Discovery Calls and Automations to Get More Sales with Mike Killen
S05 E10 - SEO, Networking, and Niching Down with Josh Garofalo
S05 E11 - Overcoming Fear, Saying No With Confidence, and Finding your Ideal Client with Adam Pierno